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org-contrib is marked as incompatible

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Hi,

on my system it seems as though org-contrib cannot be installed, as it
is marked as "incompatible". Here a snippet from the *Help* Buffer: 

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Package org-contrib is incompatible.

     Status: Incompatible because it depends on uninstallable packages.
    Archive: nongnu
    Version: 0.2
    Summary: Unmaintained add-ons for Org-mode
   Requires: emacs-25.1, org-9.4.5 (not available)
    Website: https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/org-contrib
   Keywords: org 
 Maintainer: Bastien Guerry <bzg@gnu.org>
     Author: Bastien Guerry <bzg@gnu.org>
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I don't know why org-9.4.5 is not available (I have 9.4.4 installed, and
ELPA has 9.5), maybe it should be updated to 9.5?

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Hi Philip,

thanks for the feedback.

Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:

> on my system it seems as though org-contrib cannot be installed, as it
> is marked as "incompatible". Here a snippet from the *Help* Buffer: 
>
> Package org-contrib is incompatible.
>
>      Status: Incompatible because it depends on uninstallable packages.
>     Archive: nongnu
>     Version: 0.2
>     Summary: Unmaintained add-ons for Org-mode
>    Requires: emacs-25.1, org-9.4.5 (not available)
>     Website: https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/org-contrib
>    Keywords: org 
>  Maintainer: Bastien Guerry <bzg@gnu.org>
>      Author: Bastien Guerry <bzg@gnu.org>
>
> I don't know why org-9.4.5 is not available (I have 9.4.4 installed, and
> ELPA has 9.5), maybe it should be updated to 9.5?

AFAIK org-9.4.5 is available on GNU ELPA.  Can you install it manually
and see if it solves this issue?

I'd rather not update the dependency to 9.5 right now, it would force
org-contrib users to migrate while they might not be ready for that.

Thanks,

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Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:

> I'd rather not update the dependency to 9.5 right now, it would force
> org-contrib users to migrate while they might not be ready for that.

Actually I just released org-contrib 0.3 and updated org dependency to
the latest bugfix release there (9.4.6).

Let me know if this fixes the problem you reported.

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Bastien Guerry <bzg@gnu.org> writes:

> Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> I'd rather not update the dependency to 9.5 right now, it would force
>> org-contrib users to migrate while they might not be ready for that.
>
> Actually I just released org-contrib 0.3 and updated org dependency to
> the latest bugfix release there (9.4.6).
>
> Let me know if this fixes the problem you reported.

Sorry for the last response (I was waiting for NonGNU to rebuild), but
no org-contrib is still marked as incompatible, for the same reason.

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Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:

> Sorry for the last response (I was waiting for NonGNU to rebuild), but
> no org-contrib is still marked as incompatible, for the same reason.

That's weird, especially because the org dependency was updated in the
latest org-contrib version, that is 0.3.

Can you report again what error message you get this time?

Thanks for this,

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Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:

> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:
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>> Sorry for the last response (I was waiting for NonGNU to rebuild), but
>> no org-contrib is still marked as incompatible, for the same reason.
>
> That's weird, especially because the org dependency was updated in the
> latest org-contrib version, that is 0.3.
>
> Can you report again what error message you get this time?

The *Packages* buffer says:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
  org-contrib                              0.3              incompat            nongnu        Unmaintained add-ons for Org-mode
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

and on further inspection I get

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
Package org-contrib is incompatible.

     Status: Incompatible because it depends on uninstallable packages.
    Archive: nongnu
    Version: 0.3
    Summary: Unmaintained add-ons for Org-mode
   Requires: emacs-25.1, org-9.4.6 (not available)
    Website: https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/org-contrib
   Keywords: org 
 Maintainer: Bastien Guerry <bzg@gnu.org>
     Author: Bastien Guerry <bzg@gnu.org>
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---


> Thanks for this,

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Hi Philip,

I've checked with the GNU ELPA maintainers and things look fine on
their end, I don't know what goes wrong on yours.

I hope this will somehow resolve.

Thanks,

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Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:

> Hi Philip,
>
> I've checked with the GNU ELPA maintainers and things look fine on
> their end, I don't know what goes wrong on yours.

What I can add is that this doesn't seem to be an issue on Emacs 27,
just on Emacs 28. I just pulled and rebuilt the emacs-28 branch, and the
issue persists. On my system I apparently can replicate the issue
reliably using emacs -Q. Deleting
.config/emacs/elpa/archives/gnu/archive-contents doesn't seem to change
anything.

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Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:

> What I can add is that this doesn't seem to be an issue on Emacs 27,
> just on Emacs 28. I just pulled and rebuilt the emacs-28 branch, and the
> issue persists. On my system I apparently can replicate the issue
> reliably using emacs -Q. Deleting
> .config/emacs/elpa/archives/gnu/archive-contents doesn't seem to change
> anything.

Right, thanks for the additional info.  Can you report this to the
Emacs developers?  M-x report-emacs-bug RET

Thanks!

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Hi Philip,

do you still have this issue?  Can I help somehow?

Thanks for any feedback,

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Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:

> Hi Philip,
>
> do you still have this issue?  Can I help somehow?

Yes, even after updating to Emacs 29.0.  I suspect this is ultimately an
issue in package.el.

> Thanks for any feedback,

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Hi Philip,

Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:

> Yes, even after updating to Emacs 29.0.  I suspect this is ultimately an
> issue in package.el.

Okay, thanks.  If you can tell or remind me where can I follow the
discussion about the issue in package.el, that'd be great - not sure 
if I can do anything here, but the issue is intriguing.

Thanks,

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