From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,  Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
 emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Motif support
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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2021 12:09:02 +0100
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>>>>> On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 18:35:20 +0800, Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> said:

    Po> I think only a small percentage of Emacs users track master.  Most =
of us
    Po> probably wait for the pretests to come out before complaining about=
 this
    Po> or that.

Emacs *users* yes. I expected packagers to live a bit closer to the
bleeding edge.

    >> If there=CA=BCs a strong will to put it back, we can of course do so=
, but I
    >> was hoping to achieve more removals of problematic display code. If
    >> even such a small change is rejected, then I lose hope we will ever
    >> achieve such simplifications.

    Po> I've been slowly working on cleaning up xterm.c, and from that
    Po> experience it doesn't seem like removing Motif support will achieve=
 any
    Po> real simplification.  But there are lots of GTK-related things that
    Po> simply aren't necessary anymore, and some of the workarounds for GT=
K 3
    Po> we used to have need to be updated for recent developments in the G=
TK
    Po> world.

That=CA=BCs good to hear. I=CA=BCd still like to remove eg Xft support

    Po> So again, I hope we will agree to reinstate Motif support.

That=CA=BCs not up to me, but I=CA=BCm not going to object either.

Robert
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