Authentication-Results: mail-b.sr.ht; dkim=pass header.d=cossu.cc header.i=@cossu.cc; dkim=pass header.d=cossu.cc header.i=@cossu.cc Received: from debian-2gb-nyc3-01.cossu.cc (debian-2gb-nyc3-01.cossu.cc [159.203.132.222]) by mail-b.sr.ht (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45B611EEC6 for <~kdsch/kdsch_inbox@lists.sr.ht>; Wed, 28 Dec 2022 15:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by debian-2gb-nyc3-01.cossu.cc (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 8D017437DC; Wed, 28 Dec 2022 09:45:16 -0600 (CST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cossu.cc; s=mail; t=1672242316; bh=8dVzarrWYcnJeheuxp/Xt1xYAvaY19MU7sWy+Ik0qEc=; h=Date:To:From:Subject; b=HaRjn8ewQNvq612nY0btComcYk505qhw++FZ/DIo5VtFEoM02qx412jyZeqlQd3iw Je3znCvNGnVbcwVkxZCmvDUXx5L/IXqjXJTbB66JR+XxpSsvDpm1+bNKjwIJhBxGJs i1OmvBBi7GWRkmpj58sPgACmey3a0CUm6PP0QpgQzBSOy2WRQ1HaCwxY4B7ThGdrJu eojKEzDXjDzjtFZnfEG1pZ1my2kvuOHG7ZOJawYC1WUJKR/GL53QFfaW7gb3yNuSgq FSEWnnVpd6z4Wl8jTVloDDK1ue1dVZWfKEjLkMFvf+tnxQ0+P6WOkFRuDz3nOaLNRm 0EkjZ5u9JRg3g== X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on debian-2gb-nyc3-01.cossu.cc X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from [192.168.1.158] (pool-108-4-237-83.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [108.4.237.83]) by debian-2gb-nyc3-01.cossu.cc (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 20106402CF for <~kdsch/kdsch_inbox@lists.sr.ht>; Wed, 28 Dec 2022 09:45:16 -0600 (CST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cossu.cc; s=mail; t=1672242316; bh=8dVzarrWYcnJeheuxp/Xt1xYAvaY19MU7sWy+Ik0qEc=; h=Date:To:From:Subject; b=HaRjn8ewQNvq612nY0btComcYk505qhw++FZ/DIo5VtFEoM02qx412jyZeqlQd3iw Je3znCvNGnVbcwVkxZCmvDUXx5L/IXqjXJTbB66JR+XxpSsvDpm1+bNKjwIJhBxGJs i1OmvBBi7GWRkmpj58sPgACmey3a0CUm6PP0QpgQzBSOy2WRQ1HaCwxY4B7ThGdrJu eojKEzDXjDzjtFZnfEG1pZ1my2kvuOHG7ZOJawYC1WUJKR/GL53QFfaW7gb3yNuSgq FSEWnnVpd6z4Wl8jTVloDDK1ue1dVZWfKEjLkMFvf+tnxQ0+P6WOkFRuDz3nOaLNRm 0EkjZ5u9JRg3g== Message-ID: <37e2f4b5-634e-5197-118e-3372e8955059@cossu.cc> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2022 10:45:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.6.1 To: ~kdsch/kdsch_inbox@lists.sr.ht Content-Language: en-US From: scossu Subject: Co-op ISPs and techs available in Philly area? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Karl! Upon reading your article about ISP co-ops[1] that I am interested in, and looking at your background, I thought I would contact you (or anybody who would read this list) for some information. I am a tech worker and broad-range DIYer who recently moved to Philadelphia and looking to settle long-term in West Philly. Given the area's long history of socially engaged communities, I imagine that could be a good breeding ground for an initiative similar to Gui-Fi, FreiFunk or RONJA. The three networks you mentioned seem to use different approaches and technologies, and are all in the EU. You also mention Magnolia, a co-op based in Colorado. Do you have experience with technologies and regulatory barriers that are specific to this country, which may challenge such initiatives from developing in the US, or conversely, facilitate them? Also, noticing that you are located in PA, albeit not in Philly proper, perhaps you know of any such initiatives in the Philly area, or people who may be interested in starting such a project? Many thanks for your useful write-ups and any further info you may provide. s [1] https://kdsch.org/post/isp-coop -- exitsts .not exeunt hoall. https://stefano.cossu.cc p.s. Incidentally, I noticed that this mailing list goes through Drew DeVault's org, whose work on Sway I highly appreciate. Kudos.