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Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2022 20:05:38 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PATCH aerc] Allow not marking viewed messages as seen.
From: "Koni Marti" <koni.marti@gmail.com>
To: "James Cook" <falsifian@falsifian.org>, "Moritz Poldrack"
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On Sun Jul 10, 2022 at 6:34 PM CEST, James Cook wrote:
> Thanks for your thoughts, Moritz. I'm happy to defer to you; in any case
> I'm not using the IMAP backend.
>
> I can try adding the change to unset \Seen myself, but probably won't
> have time until next weekend, so if you or someone else wants to do the
> work, please go ahead. (We could also just say the setting is not
> supported with IMAP.)
>
> > >   I really don't relish the idea of accidentally marking an email as
> > >   \Seen --- with my workflow, that means the email drops off my radar=
,
> > >   and it might have been important.
> > I'd suggest using maildir in this case. Isync can =E2=80=93 if I rememb=
er
> > correctly =E2=80=93 sync the mails state back to the origin server.
>
> Indeed, I'm using the notmuch backend with maildir+isync.

Sorry for jumping into this conversation but when you use notmuch, you
can already work with custom labels/tags that support your workflow I
believe.

What I do is use notmuch's post-new hook where I tag new messages with
whatever label I want. In the post-new-hook script I would have a line
like this:

notmuch tag +mycustomlabel -new -- tag:new

This will set "mycustomlabel" to all new messages in notmuch.=20

In aerc you could then use ":cf tag:mycustomlabel" to see all those
tagged messages (or use the query map).=20

With the :modify-labels command you can then remove this label and set
another one depending on your workflow, :modify-labels -mycustomlabel
+seen

Hope this helps.

>
> > > Off-topic:
> > >
> > > I have thought a few times of using an "Archive" folder instead of
> > > read/unread status, because I feel like I'm working against the grain=
.
> > > I haven't switched for two reasons:
> > > (a) I don't like the idea of re-transferring a (potentially large)
> > > email a couple of times just because I decided to Archive it (mbsync,
> > > at least, isn't smart enough to move instead of copying);
> > The IMAP backend (which is up for discussion here) is smart enough to
> > just tell the Server to move the messages, so for IMAP there's no
> > problem. For mbsync this patchset would just fix that issue for you,
> > wouldn't it?
>
> Right, since I don't use the IMAP backend, it doesn't really matter to
> me.
>
> --=20
> James