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Signal alternatives: Wire and Telegram

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Hi,
I just found and read your detailed blog about Signal. I strongly agree with your arguments. I just wonder to know what do you think about two messaging apps:
- Wire. It uses the same protocol with different implementation of Signal. It has a lot of user friendly features. From security point of view it does not require any phone number neither to sign up nor to work. Moreover, it has open source server side https://github.com/wireapp/wire-server and federation is on the way https://github.com/wireapp/wire/issues/160. In my opinion, it is the best alternatives to Signal also better than Riot and Matrix.
- Telegram. It uses "home made" protocol MTproto v2.0 https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-secure-is-telegram. It has the most advanced features on the messaging app world. From security point of view it requires phone number to sign up, but it works also without it. It does not have open source server https://telegram.org/faq#q-why-not-open-source-everything and does not support federation at the moment. However, its founder Durov it is a paladin of freedom of speech and he never disclose any information https://telegram.org/faq#q-do-you-process-data-requests.

Thank you
Erotavlas
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Heya, thanks for writing. I'm afraid that I'm an old fogey, and for the
most part I stick to IRC, so I'm not a general expert on chat systems.
That being said, just based on what you wrote here...

On 2018-12-21  6:44 PM, erotavlas_turbo@protonmail.com wrote:
> - Wire. It uses the same protocol with different implementation of
> Signal. It has a lot of user friendly features. From security point of
> view it does not require any phone number neither to sign up nor to
> work. Moreover, it has open source server side
> https://github.com/wireapp/wire-server and federation is on the way
> https://github.com/wireapp/wire/issues/160. In my opinion, it is the
> best alternatives to Signal also better than Riot and Matrix.

This all seems good to me, +1

> - Telegram. It uses "home made" protocol MTproto v2.0
> https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-secure-is-telegram. It has the most
> advanced features on the messaging app world. From security point of
> view it requires phone number to sign up, but it works also without
> it. It does not have open source server
> https://telegram.org/faq#q-why-not-open-source-everything and does not
> support federation at the moment. However, its founder Durov it is a
> paladin of freedom of speech and he never disclose any information
> https://telegram.org/faq#q-do-you-process-data-requests.

This all seems bad to me, -1