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Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 23:36:21 +0100
From: Amirouche <amirouche@hyper.dev>
To: Timmy Douglas <mail@timmydouglas.com>
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Subject: Re: electron alternatives: wayland-like widget toolkits/GUI
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On 2021-02-23 06:14, Timmy Douglas wrote:
> I'm not very knowledgeable is far as GUI toolkits go and I'm not sure
> exactly where I can post this question--but I thought this list might 
> be
> one place to start.
> 
> I've only used electron as an end user, not as a programmer--it seems 
> to
> have gained traction as a popular web based GUI toolkit, but many
> complain of the bloat generated by all the HTML/CSS/JavaScript 
> overhead.
> 
> I was wondering about two things:
> 
> 1. Has anyone created a realistic alternative to HTML/CSS--maybe a
> binary DOM that has a reasonable API for manipulation? I supposed it'd
> also need some sort of rendering engine
> 

By DOM, you mean the HTML serialization or the tree-like structure that 
is in memory?

I think HTML/CSS even DOM API are nice, but it is a long way to get 
there.
And not a lot of people have the time or energy to dive into 
alternatives approaches.

GUI without HTML/CSS is more powerful than what the browser can do. I 
figured that while trying to build a text editor.