Received: from mout-p-202.mailbox.org (mout-p-202.mailbox.org [80.241.56.172]) by mail-b.sr.ht (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D1B9FF0D5 for <~sircmpwn/sr.ht-discuss@lists.sr.ht>; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 14:48:52 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail-b.sr.ht; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=bearbin.net header.i=@bearbin.net header.b=Vovg0USE Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org (smtp1.mailbox.org [80.241.60.240]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mout-p-202.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49d7vQ6R21zQjyS; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 16:48:50 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at heinlein-support.de DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bearbin.net; s=MBO0001; t=1591282129; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Y7M3APsZoqUmKfT79Mv+bkpv5kBDuD9Gx9wGTjklJkI=; b=Vovg0USEGgRxyiZihMFewvU4CcFMHIJIeOrdt+YZNOK+OGQqahkHXrG4OKKAU1bXVDotR4 niisKN59Skb5zquwJ4/ZtZsoHhdfnUf4r1qQA6LXAm/OJItwNZrgKDBcsE1sqcVgqWUcaW pq8wbKXzbfFNqeFbzwVg1jA++B68PByXHHcTVidNMogbLTK0nPIgbOcAVTqfKzsWC999JY 98x+2K/EIwa0Qs0vEMWQSdPKZ+roohMvHLCQgozOBUPhK9zMsMkVLI0V8FBL/hJTJw81RN QTfXpm29Rbek81rjiqaB386Isht6Y8FE1WwYxlCx2HqaOQHLaEfGPym1112mew== Received: from smtp1.mailbox.org ([80.241.60.240]) by spamfilter05.heinlein-hosting.de (spamfilter05.heinlein-hosting.de [80.241.56.123]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id wNHlwB1wEVqM; Thu, 4 Jun 2020 16:48:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 15:48:38 +0100 From: Alexander Harkness To: "Drew DeVault" Cc: <~sircmpwn/sr.ht-discuss@lists.sr.ht>, "Alexandru-Sergiu Marton" Subject: Re: Discuss: proposed changes to the SourceHut terms of service Message-ID: <20200604154838.196e9774@fibramid.bearbin.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20200603163517.0160e165@fibramid.bearbin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/faQgWX/cf3fyhyrFCgcvWiX"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D18FC1836 X-Rspamd-Score: -1.73 / 15.00 / 15.00 --Sig_/faQgWX/cf3fyhyrFCgcvWiX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 03 Jun 2020 09:41:49 -0600 "Drew DeVault" wrote: > On Wed Jun 3, 2020 at 10:35 AM MDT, Alexander Harkness wrote: > > I am also concerned with the loose language about "the services". > > By my reading of the proposed ToS, I would no longer be able to use > > sourcehut to track issues or run a mailing list for my hypothetical > > non-free project, even if the source code was hosted elsewhere (or > > even if my project didn't have 'code' as such!). These features of > > sourcehut stand on their own and enforcing restrictions would be an > > unwelcome imposition on user freedom. =20 >=20 > Your reading is correct, this is by design. The goal is not to support > proprietary software endeavours in any way. I can't say I agree with this, even though it's a perfectly reasonable position for a service like sourcehut to take.=20 Just in the same way as private repositories are allowed to contain non free-software content, I think allowing at least the lists, todo and wiki services to be used without restriction is helpful to users who want to work on their own projects without having to perform context-switches between many different project platforms. My feeling is that that would not compromise the mission while at the same time enhancing usability for real-world free-software developers using sourcehut in the main for free-software development. --Sig_/faQgWX/cf3fyhyrFCgcvWiX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEgch3RqS6qAS7HJXHUYckWt8WC3YFAl7ZCcYACgkQUYckWt8W C3Yumw/9FN4VfHtmXktouerJLmjmkPJMJy+29YrX2wYslUnqbFmQn2QEyv9kClVV Mww2ifHQzpsk+IRXdxX8GL0aFLu4dnT+7of/EVRMchbF76mT8rxkhdsdJqBUp593 v3lpP8b097dgevympBo0mIn6hHr2qanXbJG+ZeMLtEPwRsHJcahFT9/Yp6nI0CU4 LAON+OGNSYhmlvlB4QaOzHXmQRrr0E4bOI35h5p19KGQmLXaHiPAKkpwOhUhryUK KoUmwSKNg3Ho0d6bjVtGSZA2yvxMOeRrqTvfliSL12WR//YYNoLRRdRiZmMFEO9y 22fTtXdopHxpuzBu5xeSbK+KfDjLVaRO79VBKfliZus/iZW3CkMXo7crA1upDiTt 7LSxZW3hstmGwbMnZRVRVcPBMnB7gSAr8OQSGyCxuwGT8+ru2ODxgM/oqm8Tt4+4 rpHPfCgAJL9EdzT/UdqQaThCv0Ezc7Z+PWw4RwiBSKjwnNWpe0Ubh8og6grt1KNJ TDMCAAi8V5FZ7TtUtR+yVWls+2v9JxF5JPVHkRmxieM07N0WG/f6qo702X8j1YQK pUFWWnCyTZVLOUawsvOqPn5pWXwx3js3vb7gj9lat021BkxO4Jh34VScH2v/hBRS 3n8dLVZFjHd+en5E7A4rpOJuBJp5266mDWvpxWVeVkY4NmbbIAY= =VIan -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/faQgWX/cf3fyhyrFCgcvWiX--