Hello,
I am nost sure if this mailing list is the right place to complain, but
for about a month I haven't been receiving any emails that were sent to
the mailing lists **I created**.
Most of the traffic there is based on commits from github, but nothing
reaches my inbox.
I receive emails from other mailing lists that I'm subscribed to, so I'm
not certain if the issue is on my side (I use purelymail with my own
domain) or on SourceHut's side.
An example of such aa list is https://lists.sr.ht/~mariusor/mpris-tools
If anyone encountered this issue previously, or knows how to debug it, I
would appreciate a reply.
Cheers,
/Marius
Hi Marius.
sourcehut lists won't send mails to the author of the post. I'm going
to go out on a limb and assume that the last mail you got from the list
was 7 months ago, because that was the last time that someone other than
yourself mailed in a post.
To demonstrate, I'll go ahead and write a mail to the list.
On Sun Apr 28, 2024 at 8:21 AM CDT, Marius Orcsik wrote:
> Hello,>> I am nost sure if this mailing list is the right place to complain, but> for about a month I haven't been receiving any emails that were sent to> the mailing lists **I created**.>> Most of the traffic there is based on commits from github, but nothing> reaches my inbox.>> I receive emails from other mailing lists that I'm subscribed to, so I'm> not certain if the issue is on my side (I use purelymail with my own> domain) or on SourceHut's side.>> An example of such aa list is https://lists.sr.ht/~mariusor/mpris-tools>> If anyone encountered this issue previously, or knows how to debug it, I> would appreciate a reply.>> Cheers,> /Marius
On 24-04-28 08:58:53, Ren Kararou wrote:
> Hi Marius.> > sourcehut lists won't send mails to the author of the post. I'm going> to go out on a limb and assume that the last mail you got from the list> was 7 months ago, because that was the last time that someone other than> yourself mailed in a post.
Hi Ren, that might be a good clue, but the emails coming from Github
do not come from any addresses that are associated with my account on
SourceHut:
> From: Marius Orcsik <noreply@github.com>> To: ~mariusor/mpris-tools@lists.sr.ht
More to the point, I _used_ to receive those emails without any issues,
until sometime in the past month or two (the mpris-tools list was not the
only one affected).
> > To demonstrate, I'll go ahead and write a mail to the list.>
I received that email, thank you, which I guess is a point in favour of
theory, but that means that somewhere the heuristic of filtering out email
authors from the list's email recipients is a bit questionable, and has
changed (?) in the last months. Or some other Heisenbug has been solved
by thinking about it. It could even be as easy as I "unsubscribed" and
"subscribed" to the mailing list again using the web-interface.
/Marius
> Hi Ren, that might be a good clue, but the emails coming from Github> do not come from any addresses that are associated with my account on> SourceHut:>> > From: Marius Orcsik <noreply@github.com>> > To: ~mariusor/mpris-tools@lists.sr.ht
So they do.
> More to the point, I _used_ to receive those emails without any issues,> until sometime in the past month or two (the mpris-tools list was not the> only one affected).
That is quite odd. Perhaps its keying off of the "Marius Orcsik" part
of the mail's "from"? Though if it were I would consider that a bug at
best, and a small security hole at worst.
> > > > To demonstrate, I'll go ahead and write a mail to the list.> > >> I received that email, thank you, which I guess is a point in favour of> theory, but that means that somewhere the heuristic of filtering out email> authors from the list's email recipients is a bit questionable, and has> changed (?) in the last months. Or some other Heisenbug has been solved> by thinking about it. It could even be as easy as I "unsubscribed" and> "subscribed" to the mailing list again using the web-interface.
I'm not certain I currently know enough about how the lists service
works to diagnose this further, but if anyone else knows, I believe its
worth looking into.
Ren
Hi Marius,
On 4/28/24 3:21 PM, Marius Orcsik wrote:
> I receive emails from other mailing lists that I'm subscribed to, so> I'm not certain if the issue is on my side (I use purelymail with my> own domain) or on SourceHut's side.> > An example of such aa list is> https://lists.sr.ht/~mariusor/mpris-tools
I have tracked down the instance of [1] that was sent to your address in
our postfix logs:
Apr 28 12:59:23 mail-a postfix/smtp[2264]: 2A14C20274:
to=<marius@federated.id>,
relay=mailserver.purelymail.com[18.204.123.63]:25, delay=0.94,
delays=0.05/0/0.64/0.25, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 Message received)
(not redacting anything, as you already mentioned you are using purelymail)
As such, my guess would be there must be something on your (or rather,
their) side, maybe something that trips the spam filter or such?
Hope that helps,
Conrad
[1]
https://lists.sr.ht/~mariusor/mpris-tools/%3Cmariusor/mpris-scrobbler/push/refs/tags/v0.5.2/000000-0e8f25@github.com%3E
On 24-04-29 16:11:22, Conrad Hoffmann wrote:
> As such, my guess would be there must be something on your (or rather,> their) side, maybe something that trips the spam filter or such?
Hi Conrad, thank you for looking into this.
I think the mpris-tools list works now, I had a couple of emails from
github that have reached me.
However another one(~mariusor/go-activitypub-dev) does not. I just
submitted a commit on one of the projects attached to it, github sent an
email to the list, it can be seen in the web interface[1] but nothing
reached my inbox.
If you can confirm that the issue is not on sourcehut's side for this
particular message I'll go to the PurelyMail support.
Cheers,
/Marius
[1] https://lists.sr.ht/~mariusor/go-activitypub-dev/%3Cmariusor/oni/push/refs/heads/master/6ca28f-b01185@github.com%3E
Hey,
On 4/29/24 7:12 PM, Marius Orcsik wrote:
> If you can confirm that the issue is not on sourcehut's side for this> particular message I'll go to the PurelyMail support.
Sure, same thing, though:
Apr 29 17:05:50 mail-a postfix/submission/smtpd[455]: 5612320233:
client=unknown[2a03:6000:1813:1337::154], sasl_method=PLAIN,
sasl_username=lists@mail
Apr 29 17:05:50 mail-a postfix/cleanup[453]: 5612320233:
message-id=<mariusor/oni/push/refs/heads/master/6ca28f-b01185@github.com>
Apr 29 17:05:50 mail-a postfix/qmgr[23845]: 5612320233:
from=<lists@sr.ht>, size=2758, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Apr 29 17:05:51 mail-a postfix/smtp[454]: 5612320233:
to=<marius@federated.id>,
relay=mailserver.purelymail.com[18.204.123.63]:25, delay=1.3,
delays=0.05/0/1.1/0.22, dsn=2.6.
0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 Message received)
Hope that helps,
Conrad
On 2024-04-29 14:11, Conrad Hoffmann wrote:
> As such, my guess would be there must be something on your (or rather, > their)> side, maybe something that trips the spam filter or such?>
Hey Conrad, I contacted purelymail support and the reason they have
given me
for the failures to deliver are DKIM validation issues of the messages.
This is a direct quote from their reply:
> I think this might be SourceHut's fault. If their export thread (mbox) > button> accurately reflects the linefeeds it's using, then bare linefeeds (the > LF> character) are really just not permitted in SMTP, and it should always > be> CRLF.> > The spec seems to suggest this will break DKIM even under > relaxed/relaxed:> >> > If the message is submitted to the Signer with any local encoding that will> > be modified before transmission, that modification to canonical [RFC5322]> > form MUST be done before signing. In particular, bare CR or LF characters> > (used by some systems as a local line separator convention) MUST be> > converted to the SMTP-standard CRLF sequence before the message is signed.> > Any conversion of this sort SHOULD be applied to the message actually sent> > to the recipient(s), not just to the version presented to the signing> > algorithm.
It's not clear to me if this is a problem with the mails from Github, or
the
SourceHut mailing list pipeline. I am not sure how to check which one it
is,
if you can advise.
Best,
/Marius